20 thoughts on “Tuning bass piano notes with harmonic accordance on piano

  1. john cadd says:

    I love all this technical stuff. And I thought setting the tappets on a car
    was clever. I had a Kirnberger tuning this week on my piano and it sounds
    glorious. I shall never look back.

  2. latribe says:

    @amezcuaist !!! Kirnberger is adventurous! I have always thought it just
    possibly a little strong for the piano . . . ?

  3. Isaac OLEG says:

    To hear more clearly the bass string height, knocking them with a nail ( c#
    g# is not pure but tempered !) your wo wow on GD is twice as fast as the
    actual beat ! FC is also slighly tempered. Something wrong in your
    appreciation theory, as beats are not even in speed, the speed varies in
    time (why we have to play so often the intervals) play one note then add
    the other to hear more clearly ! Best regards

  4. Isaac OLEG says:

    THe problem of this method is that you get some kind of justness, but when
    the note is played musically it refers not to a partial, but to a global
    pitch perceived. It is very clear when listening to that eB that its pitch
    even evolve in time. in music we will hear more the pitch at the attack
    time than what remains after a second. The idea to tune in the resonance of
    the piano is good

  5. Isaac OLEG says:

    No way with those old strings only a musical appreciation (vs/major/minor
    colour) will work. Partials are very high and unharmonics , and they differ
    on every string, the tone then raise soon after the attack. Obliged to
    listen and have a musical appreciation of justness. IN THE PIANO SPECTRA
    (sorry !)

  6. Isaac OLEG says:

    @siwa69 well “ear” is the key ! but indeed each note is made of a lot of
    partials. A “global” hearing is the key, partials only show a part of the

  7. Isaac OLEG says:

    the best choice in regard of the piano sympathy resonance is to use 12-15
    all along the piano. for equal temp. Stay tempered but raise resonance and
    crispness. To tune basses the attack have to be tuned first, then sustain.
    some voicing will make the tone less inharmonic too. WHat I dont get is
    that if you have so much musician ears why do you need an electronic
    device, plus that one provide an organ type tuning inadapted to inharmonic
    instrumentys as pianos.

  8. kashgarinn says:

    I was wondering as you seem interested in harmonics, perhaps you can
    answer: 1) all the strings have natural “major” harmonics, am I right? 2)
    can you tune a string to have a minor harmonic? 3) if not, is a minor
    harmonic only a part of the harmonics of two or more different strings in a
    minor harmony, or can a single major harmonic string display minor

  9. latribe says:

    Hi! By harmonics, we mean components of the composite sound of the string
    vibrating in various ways, It vibrates at a fundamental frequency, whole
    length, double frequency, half length, triple, quadruple etc etc . So a
    string vibrating at 100 cycles per second (Hz) also is capable of vibrating
    additionally at 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 etc. French horn and brass players
    are familiar with this as we use the harmonics of the instrument to reach
    different pitches. There are no major or minor harmonics

  10. ROBERT CLAYTON says:

    I’m interested in which examination (and the cost) and how long it takes
    (approximately) to train to become a piano tuner? I understand it is a
    lifelong study too!

  11. Ernest Miller says:

    With all due respect, this is a mess. Your octaves are all over the place –
    2:1, 4:2, 6:3, etc. Surely you know that there is no such thing as a
    beatless octave. Your starting F-A, which you call pure, is anything but. I
    fail to see why an unequal temperament makes it easier to improve the
    resonance of the piano as your method would work just as well (or as
    poorly) in equal temperament. I suggest you get rid of the machine and use
    your considerable natural abilities.

  12. kolkhidski says:

    I guess “B” to “F” sharp is pure too.I mean fifth. Am i right?
    and you start make tamperament with A ?

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